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Public Testimony

Drew McCormick (Animal Defenders International) testifies supporting ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 7:00:22 · 2 min 11 sec

Drew McCormick of Animal Defenders International testifies supporting the ban, citing the horse named Ryder who died from exhaustion, and arguing electric carriages could replace horses.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Hello, my name is Drew McCormick.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay.

Lynn C. Schulman

May I proceed?

Lynn C. Schulman

Yeah, please.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Hello, my name is Drew McCormick.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

I represent Animal Defenders International and our New York City supporters to urge you to please pass Bill 0943 to phase out horse-drawn carriages.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

This bill was renamed Ramanche after he was killed while trying to save his mother, who was stuck in a carriage pulled by a horse who had become spooked.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

We all are all very incredibly sorry for this family's loss.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

We hope that this bill can prevent such tragic losses from ever happening again.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Subjecting horses to the intense working conditions of pulling carriages in the city has proven to be a serious public safety issue.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Mistreating animals causes unacceptable pain, fear, and distress to the animals, which also increases the risk of them panicking and trying to escape, which poses a risk to the public as well as to the animals themselves.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

These horses are forced to work even if they are exhausted, fearful, and when their bodies need rest.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

That is why this bill was previously named Rider's Law to honor one of the many horses who

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

lapsed and died from exhaustion from pulling carriages in the city.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

The horses work in extreme heat, breathe the exhaust fumes, and navigate traffic that terrifies them and me, risking injuries to both horses and people.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Recent accidents have proven the danger is real.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

This is not a tradition worth preserving.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

It is cruelty to animals and a public risk.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

That we can end today.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

This bill previously died in this committee due to concerns about eliminating jobs for the drivers.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Although the drivers deserve to make a living, this should not be at the expense of the horses or at the risk of the public.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Furthermore, this bill does not immediately ban horse-drawn carriages and therefore provides more time for drivers to find alternative employment.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

For example, the electronic carriage business could replace horses.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

We heard comments earlier how these people could work in the government and in agencies.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Therefore, we urge you to pass this bill and ban horse-drawn carriages in the city.

Member of the Public - Drew McCormick

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

Next, identify yourself and then give your testimony.

Lynn C. Schulman

Sorry.