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Leonor Quadrosi (equine studies student) testifies opposing ban

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 6:56:03 · 4 min 19 sec

Leonor Quadrosi, an equine studies student, testifies opposing the ban, arguing carriage work is biomechanically easier than riding, the industry is heavily regulated, and the bill could lead to discontinuation of working horse breeds.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

Leonor Quadrosi.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

Okay.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

So I am a student of equine studies program soon to graduate.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

I have been working with horses for over 10 years and riding for almost 20.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

I am in opposition of this bill.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

This is biomechanically an easier job for a horse to perform than that of being ridden.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

And this is one of the most regulated industries for horses anywhere in the world.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

In fact, telling some of my professors and classmates, the amount of regulations that horses are made to follow here is one that actually shocks a lot of people because they don't believe that there are so many rules here that horses have to follow.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

And I strongly believe that the bill presented today is the first step in severing a human-animal bond that has existed for thousands of years.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

These are domesticated horses.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

They are not ones that can easily just go into a pipeline of not working anymore.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

And this will lead to the discontinuation of these certain breeds, such as drafts and standard breds, that were created to do this type of work, although it is much easier of the work they were originally created to do back when the industry began.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

This is a very painfully vague bill, and we don't have any guarantee that once these horses leave the city that they will be able to continue the proper care that they have been over the watchful eye of in New York City.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

And, you know, while a lot of the people sitting here today mean well, once they are out,

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

Out of their eyes, there is no way that we will be able to tell what's going on with these horses.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

And I have been a part of an independent study for my degree program, talking exactly about the social license to operate urban stables and had the task of laying out

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

exactly how to ensure good welfare for horses that exist inside the city.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

And it is possible, and not only possible, but the surrounding community can be a part of this as well, where not only do we have respect for the horses in the park, where we don't have e-bikes and other things running all around them, causing spooking accidents that have increased.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

I ask that this is not the bill that is supported, rather the other one that has been...

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

Introduced by Councilman Gennaro, so that we do not go further away from the natural world than we already have, and that we remember that we do share this world with other species and not just ourselves.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

New York City does not have to only be for people, but can coexist with horses as well as the other animals that exist here.

Member of the Public - Leonor Quadrosi

Thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

Thank you both.

Lynn C. Schulman

So a couple of housekeeping things.

Lynn C. Schulman

One is that if people, we have a ton more people to testify, so several hours worth of testimony.

Lynn C. Schulman

If you want to submit testimony, you can.

Lynn C. Schulman

You have up to 72 hours after the end of this hearing to do so, and you can do it at testimony.nyc, testimony at council, sorry, .nyc.gov, gov.

Lynn C. Schulman

We look at every single, we've actually had people submit testimony already earlier this week, knowing that there was a hearing today.

Lynn C. Schulman

Every single piece of testimony is going to be looked at and reviewed and put into a report.

Lynn C. Schulman

So I just want to let folks know that's an option.

Lynn C. Schulman

Oh, also, if there is anybody here that still wants to testify and has not filled out one of these cards, please see one of the sergeants and do so.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay.

Lynn C. Schulman

So now I'm going to call Joel Bartlett, Drew McCormick, Emily Erodis, Deborah Thomas,

Lynn C. Schulman

Nicolene von Fink.

Council Staff

Three people.

Council Staff

So I'm going to give you three more.

Lynn C. Schulman

Well, let's see.

Lynn C. Schulman

Let's see.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, just state your name for the record, please.