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Pauline Burns (NY State Horse Council) testifies remotely, abstains on bill

New York City Council · Jul 15, 2026 · starts 8:30:33 · 3 min 27 sec

Pauline Burns, president of the NY State Horse Council, testifies remotely that the organization is abstaining on Intro 943, recommends considering Intro 937 instead, and seeks clarification on horse disposition language.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

You may begin.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

Good evening.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

This is Pauline Burns.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

Can you hear me okay?

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

Yes.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

Very good.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

I want to thank you for the opportunity to give some testimony.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

I'm president of the New York State Horse Council and would like to address the esteemed members of the New York City Council Health Committee.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

The New York Horse Council was founded in 1966

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

as an umbrella organization for the equine community residing in New York State.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

Our mission is to create a strong unified voice for all horse interests toward the preservation of a future for horses in New York State.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

The New York State Horse Council Board of Directors and its membership is composed of a diverse group of industry professionals

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

making our organization uniquely qualified to assist in all matters pertaining to horses in New York State.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

At this time, the New York State Horse Council is abstaining from a direct position on Introduction 943,

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

a bill to amend the Administrative Code of the City of New York in relation to prohibiting the operation of horse-drawn cabs.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

We do recommend consideration of introduction 937.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

New York State Horse Council would like clarification on the intent of language contained in New York City Introduction 943 pertaining to the disposition of licensed horses.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

We agree horses should not be sold for slaughter, and it is in fact illegal in New York State per Agriculture and Markets Law Section 385.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

However, we also recognize that the carriage horses in New York City are privately owned, and as such, their owners are responsible for their humane treatment and disposition.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

We recognize New York City has evolved since the inception of the carriage industry.

Lynn C. Schulman

Time expired.

Lynn C. Schulman

If you could just summarize the end part, because we...

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

This is the end paragraph.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

We recognize New York City has evolved since the inception of the carriage industry and that Central Park is now host to millions of tourists and residents.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

We all have a vision for the use of the park.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

Your supportive enforcement of current regulations pertaining to suspensions and revocations of licenses within the New York City carriage industry will improve the safety of the horses, drivers, passengers, and general public.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

We welcome the opportunity for thoughtful discussion so we can work together to find fair and humane paths forward.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

For the city, the residents, the visitors, the carriage industry, and the horses.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

We also recognize that if this- We have to, we can't, we can't, we have to move on.

Lynn C. Schulman

So just tell you a couple of sentences and we have to move on.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

This is the end.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

We also recognize that there is a proposed phase-out period that will require responsible transition, and we would welcome an opportunity.

Member of the Public - Pauline Burns

I also have a list of recommendations that are set forth with the testimony, but thank you.

Lynn C. Schulman

Okay, thank you very much.

Lynn C. Schulman

Next is Nora Marino.