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Caban asks about feedback and trainings on intersex issues

New York City Council · Oct 16, 2026 · starts 1:06:52 · 2 min 19 sec

Caban asks whether CCHR has heard feedback on shortcomings and whether it has trainings or materials on intersex issues. Kamuf Ward says Interact and Fordham Law Clinic raised the need for explicit statutory language and CCHR has a TGN-CBI training that can include this education.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Thank you.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Have you heard any feedback from community partners or the public on shortcomings of the current protections provided under the human rights law?

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

So I think we've heard from the same individuals that you've been working with interact, and I think the Fordham Law School Clinic, so I'm a Fordham alum, so shout out,

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

on, again, what we're talking about right now, which is that some of the materials reference intersex persons, but it wasn't clearly articulated in the law.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

And so that, you know, is part of the calculation in supporting the legislation.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

There are, you know, many, many things in the city human rights law that I think advocates have come to us to discuss.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

Associational discrimination is another area where some protected categories have protections because you are associated with a person related to their disability.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

And that doesn't exist for every protected category.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

So that's something we've been looking at as well.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Thank you.

Tiffany L. Cabán

And chairs, I just have one more question, if I may.

Tiffany L. Cabán

So we know that the general public doesn't necessarily have a high level of awareness of what intersex status means or the challenges that people with intersex characteristics might face.

Tiffany L. Cabán

And so...

Tiffany L. Cabán

Do you have any specific trainings, materials, or outreach programming on this topic?

Tiffany L. Cabán

And if you do, are those trainings or programs aimed at specific audiences?

Tiffany L. Cabán

Like, you know, an example would be medical providers, or is it for audiences at large?

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

Yeah, so we have a specific training that is on working with TGN-CBI people.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

in general that really has historically targeted employers, but we've offered it for many service providers, for colleagues at DOHMH and others.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

So that is the natural place for kind of this type of education to exist.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

But I think, you know, when discussing this bill, and if it passes, we will be in touch with the Mayor's Office of LGBTQIA Affairs to think about how do we get the word out.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Thank you.

Tiffany L. Cabán

So yeah, we're here to be partners in that, obviously interact and our student cohort are ready to be a part of that and looking forward to working together to make sure it gets passed.

Tiffany L. Cabán

Thank you, Chair.

JoAnn Kamuf Ward

Great, thank you.