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New York City Council

Committee on Higher Education

Oversight - Seal of Civic Readiness in DOE High Schools and at CUNY

Oct 20, 2026 · 1:00 PM ET · 2 hr 49 min
Hearing

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0:00:18 32 sec
Procedure

Staff gives hearing room instructions and announces start

Council staff apologizes for delay and explains that no one may approach the dais. They tell attendees to contact a sergeant at arms for questions and announce the chairs are ready to begin.

0:00:51 17 sec
Remarks

Chair Joseph opens joint hearing on Seal of Civic Readiness

Council Member Rita Joseph introduces herself as Chair of the Committee on Higher Education and welcomes attendees to the joint hearing with the Committee on Education. She states the hearing topic is the use of the NYS Seal of Civic Readiness in DOE high schools and at CUNY.

0:01:08 1 min 1 sec
Remarks

Chair Joseph lists legislation before the committees

Joseph lists Int 259 on dental care information, Res 418 on CUNY credit for the Seal, Res 451 on the Next Gen Civics Act, and proposed Res 620A on awarding the Seal in all NYC public high schools. She names the sponsors for each item.

0:02:08 1 min 39 sec
Remarks

Council Member Zhuang advocates for Res 451 and Next Gen Civics Act

Susan Zhuang says young New Yorkers are among the least civically engaged voters and that high-quality civic education increases voting and volunteering. She asks colleagues to support Res 451, which calls on the state to pass the Next Gen Civics Act for hands-on civics in grades 9-12.

0:03:48 1 min 11 sec
Remarks

Council Member Krishnan introduces Int 259 on dental care and fluoride

Shekar Krishnan cites misinformation about public health and vaccines and says New York City must ensure children get accurate medical information. He explains Int 259 would require DOE to inform parents about the importance of fluoride for dental health.

0:04:59 59 sec
Remarks

Chair Joseph explains Seal of Civic Readiness requirements

Joseph says the Seal was implemented statewide in 2022 and recognizes proficiency in civic knowledge, skills, and action. She describes the point system, including social studies courses, Regents exams, research projects, service learning, and a civic capstone project.

0:05:58 56 sec
Remarks

Chair Joseph outlines committee interest in CUNY credit and graduation

Joseph says some NYC public high school graduates have come to CUNY with the Seal for several years. She says the committees want to explore how the Seal is promoted and encourage CUNY to accept it for credit or requirements to smooth the transition and improve timely graduation.

0:06:54 50 sec
Remarks

Chair Dinowitz opens with personal background and polarization concerns

Eric Dinowitz introduces himself as Chair of the Committee on Education and as a NYC public schools and CUNY alum. He warns of deepening polarization and youth detachment from civics, and says the city must re-engage students in civic education.

0:07:45 28 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz cites Seal growth statistics

Dinowitz reports that 8,000 students from 166 DOE high schools earned the Seal in 2024-2025, a 72% increase from the prior year. He notes only 643 seniors from 31 high schools earned it in the 2022 pilot year.

0:08:12 28 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz discusses Regents exam changes and Seal's diploma role

Dinowitz says the State Board of Regents is moving to end specific Regents exam graduation requirements beginning with the class of 2028. He notes the Seal can currently replace the second social studies Regents exam but will no longer count toward a diploma under the state plan.

0:08:41 18 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz notes CUNY enrollment and potential credit benefits

Dinowitz says more than 60% of DOE graduates who go to college enroll at CUNY, so many incoming students likely have the Seal. He argues CUNY could award flexible Common Core or elective credits to help students meet requirements sooner.

0:08:59 40 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz argues Seal rigor exceeds basics

Dinowitz says earning the Seal takes more than basics, including eight social studies credits and at least two civic participation points. He says the Seal should be recognized for the rigorous work students complete.

0:09:39 24 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz cites CFB on unequal civic course access

Dinowitz cites the NYC Campaign Finance Board that civic engagement course offerings vary by school funding and location. He notes only schools that apply to DOE can award the Seal, so a student's chance depends on which high school they attend.

0:10:03 58 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz compares Seal of Biliteracy credit success

Dinowitz recalls a 2023 joint hearing on the Seal of Biliteracy when CUNY said only Marist automatically awarded credit. He says today 10 CUNY colleges plus two schools award between three and eight credits for that seal, showing what collaboration can achieve.

0:11:01 33 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz calls Seal a five-way win

Dinowitz says the Seal of Civic Readiness has no downside for students. He calls it a win for students, families, DOE schools, CUNY campuses, and taxpayers.

0:11:34 31 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz presents Res 418 and Res 620A

Dinowitz says Res 418 calls on CUNY to ensure all campuses award appropriate college credits for the Seal. Proposed Res 620A calls on DOE to ensure the Seal is awarded in all NYC public high schools to eligible students.

0:12:05 47 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz credits Hunter College Grove Leadership Fellowship students

Dinowitz says the early work on the resolutions was done with students he mentored at Hunter College through the Grove Leadership Fellowship. He commends the CUNY students for drafting the resolutions as a civic project.

0:12:52 29 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz thanks committee staff

Dinowitz thanks his legislative director Theo Solter, chief of staff Jenna Klaus, senior counsel Alejandro Carvajal, and several policy and financial analysts. He then turns the floor back to Chair Joseph.

0:13:21 31 sec
Procedure

Chair Joseph acknowledges attending council members

Joseph acknowledges colleagues on both committees who are present, including Dinowitz, Wong, Narcisse, Brewer, Shulman, Lewis, Zhuang, Krishnan, De La Rosa, Wilson, and Lee. She thanks them for attending.

0:13:52 16 sec
Procedure

Chair Joseph thanks her staff

Joseph thanks her chief of staff Giovanni Picquan, policy and budget director Ben Atkinson, senior legislative counsel Amita Kelawan, policy analyst Regina Paul, and financial analyst Ali Stouffer.

0:14:08 40 sec
Procedure

Chair Joseph gives witness slip and time limit instructions

Joseph reminds witnesses to fill out a witness slip even if registered in advance. She limits testimony to two minutes per person and member questions to five minutes, and says in-person witnesses will testify before Zoom participants.

0:14:48 26 sec
Procedure

Committee counsel administers affirmation to witnesses

Council staff asks witnesses to raise their right hands and affirm they will tell the truth and respond honestly to council member questions. Joseph thanks the witnesses after the affirmation.

0:15:14 24 sec
Procedure

Chair Joseph instructs witnesses to state name and order of testimony

Joseph reminds witnesses to state their name before testifying. She says CUNY witnesses will begin, followed by New York City Public Schools witnesses.

0:15:38 31 sec
Agency Testimony

Alyssa Vine introduces CUNY Credit for Prior Learning

Alyssa Vine, CUNY University Director of Credit for Prior Learning, introduces herself and explains CPL as an academic process for awarding credit for college-level learning outside the traditional classroom. She says CPL is a nationally recognized strategy for recruitment and student success.

0:16:08 51 sec
Agency Testimony

Vine defines CPL and its benefits

Vine says CPL saves students time and money on the path to a degree and validates learning gained on the job, through training, or through lived experience. She says CPL sends a message to recipients that they are college material.

0:16:59 53 sec
Agency Testimony

Vine describes CUNY CPL policy and Res 418 response

Vine notes CUNY's CPL policy passed in 2020 and implementation work is ongoing. She says Res 418 asks CUNY to award credit for the Seal of Civic Readiness when there is alignment with college-level learning.

0:17:52 1 min 48 sec
Agency Testimony

Vine lists existing CPL opportunities for high school students

Vine says CUNY colleges award CPL for qualifying AP, IB, and Cambridge exams and are developing pathways for industry certifications. She also says 12 CUNY colleges have CPL pathways for Seal of Biliteracy recipients.

0:19:40 1 min 42 sec
Agency Testimony

Vine compares Seal of Biliteracy and Civic Readiness for CPL

Vine says both seals recognize significant high school learning, but Biliteracy aligns with established language proficiency standards while Civic Readiness is broader. She says CUNY must examine evidence from particular pathways before awarding credit.

0:21:21 1 min 17 sec
Agency Testimony

Vine proposes capstone project review for college credit

Vine says the high school capstone project is a promising route for CPL because it may demonstrate advanced college-level learning. She suggests it may align with CUNY general education rather than a specific course or major.

0:22:38 1 min 25 sec
Agency Testimony

Vine outlines faculty review and CUNY-specific pathway

Vine says CUNY faculty would need to review capstone requirements and implementation across high schools. She proposes a possible CUNY-specific civic readiness portfolio pathway and says CUNY wants to continue exploring with NYC Public Schools.

0:24:03 1 min 16 sec
Agency Testimony

Cordelia Veve introduces DOE team and context

Cordelia Veve, DOE Chief of Curriculum and Instruction, introduces herself and colleagues Jenna Ryle, Chris Kermiet-Hall, and Superintendents Hoa Tu, Marcel Deans, and Anthony Inzerillo. She frames the hearing around implementing the NYS Seal of Civic Readiness.

0:25:19 1 min 11 sec
Agency Testimony

Veve recounts Civics for All history and resources

Veve says NYC Public Schools launched Civics for All in 2018 as part of Democracy NYC. She describes K-12 curriculum, school partnerships, participatory budgeting, student programming, teacher learning, and social studies comic books.

0:26:30 46 sec
Agency Testimony

Veve describes goals and measures of civic learning

Veve says the goal is high-quality civics education for every student K-12. She measures impact by access to curriculum, annual speeches on community issues, participatory budgeting, and civic action projects.

0:27:16 1 min 17 sec
Agency Testimony

Veve discusses statewide Civic Readiness Initiative and domains

Veve says NYC Public Schools joined the statewide Civic Readiness Initiative in 2018 and helped develop the definition and capstone. She lists the four domains: civic knowledge, civic skills in action, civic mindsets, and civic experiences.

0:28:33 1 min 27 sec
Agency Testimony

Veve explains Seal point structure and school flexibility

Veve says students need six points, with two from civic knowledge and two from civic participation. She says schools can develop their own routes to the Seal using 11 criteria worth between 0.5 and 4 points.

0:30:00 1 min 32 sec
Agency Testimony

Jenna Ryle describes accreditation and rigor standards

Jenna Ryle, DOE Director of Civics, says schools must use pre-accredited projects or submit their own for accreditation. She says this process ensures Seal-related projects meet NYSED requirements and maintain rigor.

0:31:32 1 min 1 sec
Agency Testimony

Ryle details two-tier professional learning and partner schools

Ryle says DOE designed citywide professional learning and intensive school-based partnerships. She says the model shifted to district-based support as participation grew.

0:32:33 1 min 42 sec
Agency Testimony

Ryle reports growth in partner schools and districts

Ryle says partner schools grew from 103 in 2019-2020 to 196 in 2021-2022 before shifting to a district model. She says 35 of 45 districts now participate in the Civics for All Partner District Program.

0:34:14 1 min 26 sec
Agency Testimony

Ryle reports Seal school and graduate growth

Ryle says Seal-offering schools grew from 31 in the pilot year to 271 in 2026-2027. She reports 12,019 students graduated with the Seal in 2025-2026, a 1,600% increase from 682 in the 2021-2022 pilot year.

0:35:40 42 sec
Agency Testimony

Ryle addresses Int 259 dental care materials

Ryle says DOE supports collaboration with the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene on oral health education. She says DOE looks forward to working with the Council on distributing dental care and fluoride information to families.

0:36:23 2 min 39 sec
Q&A

Chair Joseph asks CUNY about Seal data and admissions code

Joseph asks how many Seal recipients have come to CUNY and for demographic data, and whether CUNY admissions captures the state program service code. Alyssa Vine says CUNY does not currently consider the Seal in central admissions and will look further into it.

0:39:02 36 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks CUNY whether faculty evaluated Seal for credit

Joseph notes CUNY's CPL policy is university-wide but faculty determine equivalencies. Vine says no CUNY colleges have evaluated the Seal of Civic Readiness yet, but CUNY looks forward to engaging faculty.

0:39:38 54 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks CUNY about working group model for evaluation

Joseph asks whether CUNY will create a working group or task force. Vine describes an existing model that brings faculty from about eight colleges together with materials and student work to make a system-wide recommendation.

0:40:32 1 min 36 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks CUNY how credit awards are publicized

Joseph asks whether credit awards are publicized to prospective students. Vine says CUNY lists credit awards on a website and in the Transfer Explorer tool, and will do the same for Civic Readiness once colleges award credit.

0:42:08 55 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks CUNY to publicize benefits of Seal

Joseph asks whether CUNY will publicize the benefits of earning the Seal once credit pathways are in motion. Vine says yes, CUNY is proud to help students save time and money toward degrees.

0:43:03 44 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks DOE about 2026 Seal earners and school coverage

Joseph asks how many class of 2026 students earned the Seal and how many high schools offered it. Jenna Ryle says 12,019 students earned the Seal across 230 high schools.

0:43:48 27 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks DOE about Seal application process

Joseph asks how many schools applied for 2026 and how many will offer the Seal. Ryle says DOE accepts all schools that apply and works with them to meet requirements.

0:44:15 53 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks DOE how Seal earners are tracked

Dinowitz asks how DOE tracks the number of students earning the Seal. Ryle says schools submit Seal earners as part of graduate data reporting, and numbers should match ATS discharge records.

0:45:08 1 min 26 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz questions ATS limitation on multiple seals

Dinowitz says ATS only allows one seal and asks whether numbers are undercounted for students earning multiple seals. Ryle says there are no combination codes, but cumulative records should list all endorsements.

0:46:34 1 min 16 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks about OASIS transition and combination codes

Dinowitz asks whether the transition from ATS to OASIS will allow multiple seals in reported data. Ryle says DOE is building a civic readiness tracker in STARS Classroom and future coding depends on state guidance.

0:47:49 1 min 45 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks DOE whether civic opportunities vary by poverty

Dinowitz asks whether DOE tracks which high schools offer civic participation opportunities and whether offerings differ by poverty level. Ryle says DOE does not have that data right now.

0:49:34 1 min 51 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks DOE about rigor of Seal projects

Dinowitz asks about the content, depth, and rigor of Seal projects. Ryle says the handbook aligns every project to commencement-level standards and the accreditation rubric ensures consistent rigor.

0:51:25 49 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks if Seal is more rigorous than standard coursework

Dinowitz asks whether DOE views the Seal as more rigorous than standard coursework. Ryle says she would not say more rigorous, but it offers multiple ways to demonstrate learning and can substitute for graduation requirements.

0:52:14 46 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks about multi-year portfolio nature of Seal

Dinowitz asks whether the Seal is a multi-year project. Ryle says the Seal is a portfolio that can start with an eighth-grade capstone and continue through 12th grade experiences and projects.

0:53:00 1 min 40 sec
Q&A

Wilson asks DOE about teaching hard history in civic knowledge

Carl Wilson asks how civic knowledge can include harder parts of history like racism, homophobia, and sexism. Ryle says DOE curriculum uses multiple perspectives and a hard history series to support teachers.

0:54:39 1 min 2 sec
Q&A

Wilson asks DOE about equitable access to civic engagement

Wilson asks how DOE ensures civic engagement opportunities are equally accessible to all students. Ryle says DOE built in-house opportunities so the Seal does not depend on external resources that better-resourced students may access.

0:55:42 1 min 12 sec
Q&A

Wilson asks DOE about engaging immigrant students

Wilson asks how DOE engages immigrant students from different civic traditions. Ryle says the curriculum draws on students' lived experiences as assets, and Superintendent Deans will speak to family outreach.

0:56:54 2 min 14 sec
Public Testimony

Superintendent Marcel Deans describes Bronx parent outreach and Civics Fair

Marcel Deans, Bronx High School Superintendent for Districts 8, 10, and 11, describes parent outreach through a Bronx Museum Civics Fair. He says Seal earners in his district grew from 9 in 2022 to 780 in 2026, and notes over 78% of students are Title I.

0:59:07 2 min 9 sec
Q&A

Wong asks CUNY and DOE about Seal credit and school outreach

Phil Wong asks what the Seal translates to in college credits and how students are informed. Alyssa Vine says no CUNY colleges award credit yet, and Cordelia Veve describes future CPL credit setup. Wong also asks how DOE will reach schools not offering the Seal; Veve says DOE will keep engaging superintendents and principals.

1:01:16 2 min 18 sec
Q&A

Brewer praises Civics for All and asks about Youth Civic Hub and publicity

Gale Brewer praises Civics for All programs and asks how the Youth Civic Hub and about 100 youth groups fit into civics education. She complains that the public often believes schools do not teach civics and asks what publicity DOE is doing.

1:03:34 2 min 18 sec
Q&A

Ryle responds on Youth Civic Hub and public messaging

Jenna Ryle says DOE met with Youth Civic Hub organizers and shares the hub with schools. She describes internal awareness-building and external panels, but Brewer pushes for more public outreach.

1:05:52 10 sec
Q&A

Brewer asks how external civics groups fit into Civics for All

Brewer asks how groups like Teens Take the City and Generation Citizen fit into Civics for All and whether they duplicate efforts. She requests metrics on how those groups help.

1:06:03 48 sec
Q&A

Ryle explains external partner accreditation and newsletter

Ryle says DOE encourages schools to collaborate with local civics organizations and sends a newsletter with opportunities. She says external organizations can accredit projects, citing YVote as an example.

1:06:51 37 sec
Remarks

Joseph and Brewer discuss public messaging and comics

Joseph thanks Brewer and says they often discuss how to get the message to families. She notes NYC Public Schools prints many comic books but families, students, and colleagues often do not know, and urges highlighting the best of public schools.

1:07:27 1 min 4 sec
Q&A

Farías asks about electoral and governmental civics instruction

Amanda Farías asks how DOE teaches electoral and governmental civics, including voter pre-registration and understanding the two-party system. She says community members often think young people are not engaged in voting.

1:08:32 1 min 38 sec
Q&A

Ryle details elections curriculum and Civics Week registration

Ryle says elections instruction starts in second grade and the high school civics curriculum includes a section called Vote with 18 activities. She says Civics Week in March includes a citywide student voter registration drive.

1:10:10 1 min 6 sec
Q&A

Farías follows up on community engagement and Civics Week

Farías says she has participated in Civics Week but wants more comprehensive understanding of city efforts. She asks to receive electoral comics and participate more broadly in March; Ryle agrees to share materials.

1:11:15 28 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks about parent awareness of 16-year-old pre-registration

Joseph asks how many parents know their 16-year-olds can pre-register to vote. She says DOE must engage families where they are, including hair salons and churches.

1:11:43 47 sec
Q&A

Narcisse asks who decides what counts as civic action

Mercedes Narcisse asks who decides what counts as civic action. Ryle says civic action projects are process-based and the topic comes from students themselves.

1:12:29 38 sec
Q&A

Narcisse asks whether poll work and summer youth count toward Seal

Narcisse asks whether working as a poll worker or running a voter pre-registration drive counts. Ryle says 40 hours of extracurricular activity plus an application of knowledge product can count toward the Seal.

1:13:07 1 min 43 sec
Remarks

Narcisse comments on incentives and acknowledgement for youth

Narcisse says young people need incentives and acknowledgement, and the Seal is a good way to show them college pathways. She suggests engaging parents at parent nights to motivate students.

1:14:50 24 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks how Civics for All connects to Portrait and Black Studies

Joseph asks how Civics for All will play a role with Portrait of a Graduate and how the Black Studies curriculum ties in. She notes the committees want cultural competence and students seeing themselves in curricula.

1:15:14 1 min 25 sec
Q&A

Ryle explains Portrait connections and Black Studies crosswalk

Ryle says the Seal allows students to demonstrate Portrait competencies like global citizen and critical thinker. She says DOE created a crosswalk linking social studies units, Civics for All lessons, and Black Studies curriculum.

1:16:39 1 min 1 sec
Q&A

Joseph follows up on Black Studies and Latina curriculum

Joseph asks how many schools incorporate the Black Studies curriculum and mentions the upcoming Latina curriculum. Ryle says she does not have the number but can get it.

1:17:40 1 min 7 sec
Remarks

Narcisse urges collaboration with Black Institute and Haitian community

Narcisse asks whether DOE collaborates with the Black Institute and says Haitian and Black students need to feel important amid attacks. She urges DOE to encourage that work.

1:18:47 5 sec
Remarks

Joseph responds to Narcisse on age

Joseph jokes with Narcisse about age and then turns the floor to Chair Dinowitz.

1:18:51 1 min 2 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz confirms voter registration compliance under Local Law 189

Dinowitz asks whether DOE is complying with Local Law 189 of 2025 requiring coded voter registration forms. Ryle says DOE sends every eligible school a box with materials and coded forms ahead of Civics Week.

1:19:54 23 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz requests Seal data broken down by demographics

Dinowitz asks for data on Seal earners and participating schools by race, ethnicity, income, ELL status, disability, borough, and school type. Ryle says DOE has that data and can share it.

1:20:17 1 min 50 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks about CUNY-DOE collaboration on project rigor

Dinowitz asks about the DOE bank of vetted projects and auditing process. Cordelia Veve says the next step is for CUNY faculty to review actual student work products to establish credit pathways.

1:22:08 1 min 13 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz calls for CUNY-DOE meeting on credit pathways

Dinowitz describes a symbiotic relationship where DOE shows what it is doing and CUNY says what it needs. He asks for a meeting on the calendar, and Veve agrees.

1:23:20 2 min 4 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks DOE about civics budget and professional learning

Dinowitz asks how much DOE spends annually on Seal implementation, per school, and per recipient. Veve says the overall civics budget is $3,001,659, with $1.6 million for participatory budgeting and $861,770 for professional learning.

1:25:24 1 min 55 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks how much professional learning goes to contractors

Dinowitz asks how much professional learning funding goes to private for-profit contractors. Ryle says Mikva Challenge is paid for Project Soapbox, while the rest of professional learning is provided by DOE's nine-person civics team.

1:27:19 48 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz urges in-house professional learning for teachers

Dinowitz says teachers appreciate per-session pay and that hiring DOE teachers is less expensive. He urges DOE to keep professional learning and curriculum development in-house as the Seal expands.

1:28:07 1 min 11 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks how parents can search for Seal schools online

Dinowitz searches the DOE website and says he cannot filter for schools offering the Seal of Civic Readiness or Seal of Biliteracy. Ryle says she will follow up on where the list of Seal schools is posted.

1:29:18 1 min 22 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks DOE to add Seal to MySchools website

Dinowitz asks DOE to work with the website division so the Seal appears on MySchools for parents and students. Veve agrees to work with the relevant department.

1:30:40 35 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks DOE about longitudinal tracking of Seal earners

Dinowitz asks whether DOE tracks Seal earners into college or career. Veve says DOE does not formally track that yet but it is on their agenda, with data tracking in STARS.

1:31:15 1 min 6 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks how journalism can count as civics project

Dinowitz asks how journalism can become part of the approved civics project list. Chris Kermiet-Hall says there is a public accreditation portal where organizations can submit instructional materials for review.

1:32:21 4 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz turns back to Chair Joseph

Dinowitz notes new youth journalism funding and says journalism is tied to civics, then turns the floor back to Chair Joseph.

1:32:25 1 min 39 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks DOE about language access for Seal

Joseph asks how DOE reaches parents and students whose first language is not English. Ryle says schools must create universal accessibility plans and Seal projects can be completed in home languages.

1:34:04 2 min 27 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks how schools support each other in offering Seal

Joseph asks how DOE supports schools that want to offer the Seal. Chris Kermiet-Hall describes cross-school sharing, and Superintendent Hoa Tu says Queens North doubled Seal schools year over year to 96%.

1:36:31 2 min 10 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks how DOE measures success and uses student feedback

Joseph asks how DOE measures success and whether students give feedback on projects. Veve says success is measured by access and schools refine projects based on student and district learning.

1:38:41 35 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks whether Seal can substitute for Regents exam

Joseph asks whether the Seal can substitute for a Regents exam. Chris Kermiet-Hall says it can substitute for the fifth Regents exam as a graduation pathway if students have ELA, math, social studies, and science.

1:39:16 53 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks about middle school capstone and Seal awareness

Joseph asks how DOE informs middle school students about the Seal and how many seventh and eighth graders completed a capstone. Ryle says she will get the number.

1:40:09 2 min 2 sec
Public Testimony

Superintendent Inzerillo describes middle school capstone and outreach

Anthony Inzerillo, Superintendent for District 26 elementary and middle schools, describes soapbox speeches and civic action projects for all middle schoolers. He says DOE shares opportunities through parent workshops, newsletters, CEC meetings, and district leadership teams.

1:42:12 28 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks about Seal promotion at high school open houses

Joseph asks whether schools talk about the Seal at open houses and whether the old big book of schools still exists. Veve says the big book is gone and information is now on MySchools.

1:42:39 33 sec
Q&A

Inzerillo commits to marking civics programs at District 26 high school fair

Inzerillo says District 26 has a high school fair on November 9 and he will add a marker or asterisk for schools with strong civics programs. He says families should see civics alongside college courses, CTE, and associate degree programs.

1:43:13 20 sec
Remarks

Joseph urges outreach through principals and parent coordinators

Joseph says information should go out through texts, websites, principals, parent coordinators, and SLTs. She says principals and parent coordinators are the first line of contact with families.

1:43:32 1 min 54 sec
Public Testimony

Inzerillo shares student civic action examples

Inzerillo describes students researching a cannabis dispensary near a school and fixing water fountains at PS 173. He says students contact city agencies and hold officials accountable.

1:45:27 36 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz confirms marker for Seal at high school fair

Dinowitz asks Inzerillo to confirm he will mark high schools that offer the Seal at the District 26 fair. Inzerillo says yes, the fair will distinguish civics, associate programs, college credit, and CTE.

1:46:03 44 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz adds biliteracy and website education component

Dinowitz says the marker should also include the Seal of Biliteracy. He says the website needs an education component explaining what the Seal is so families understand the programs.

1:46:47 1 min 27 sec
Remarks

Joseph and Dinowitz close agency testimony with thanks and light remarks

Joseph says young people see career pathways through civic engagement and thanks the agencies. She says she wants CUNY and DOE to be besties on civics, and Dinowitz jokes about karaoke after their meeting.

1:48:14 57 sec
Procedure

Chair Joseph opens public testimony and states rules

Joseph opens public testimony and reminds attendees this is a formal government proceeding requiring decorum. She explains witness slips, two-minute speaking limit, and rules against video recording from the witness table.

1:49:11 4 min 58 sec
Public Testimony

Renata Caldeira testifies on civic engagement guardrails

The first public panel is called, including Renata Caldeira, Elizabeth Shattuck, Susie Gomez, and Victor Medina. Renata Caldeira describes a school fundraiser vote involving young students and asks for DOE guidance, parent notification, and release of OSI findings.

1:54:08 4 min 16 sec
Public Testimony

Elizabeth Shattuck of New Visions testifies on Seal implementation

Elizabeth Shattuck leads social studies curriculum at New Visions for Public Schools and says the organization supports expanding Seal access. She offers instructional materials and professional learning, and recommends more approved project structures and rubrics.

1:58:24 3 min 9 sec
Public Testimony

Victor Medina of Futures Ignite testifies on environmental civic action

Victor Medina, Civic Science Leadership Program Manager at Futures Ignite, describes student-led environmental justice work. He cites a student movement that created a permanent open street on 182nd Street and supports Seal credit.

2:01:33 2 min 57 sec
Public Testimony

Jeffrey Rehm of Runway Green testifies on civic learning at Floyd Bennett Field

Jeffrey Rehm, executive director of Runway Green, describes a planned education campus at Floyd Bennett Field serving up to 50,000 students yearly. He urges the Council to adopt all three resolutions and support educator preparation and community partnerships.

2:04:30 3 min 57 sec
Public Testimony

Susie Gomes of League of Women Voters testifies on K-12 civics

Susie Gomes, chair of the City Affairs Committee at the League of Women Voters of New York City, says civics concepts appear everywhere and should be taught explicitly K-12. She supports Civics for All and the Seal, and suggests studying whether Seal participants are more civically engaged.

2:08:28 1 min 19 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks New Visions about tracking Seal outcomes

Dinowitz asks whether New Visions tracks how Seal students do later. Elizabeth Shattuck says the portal worked on tracking during Seal development but she does not know if it still does, and will find out.

2:09:47 1 min 35 sec
Q&A

Joseph asks League of Women Voters about youth voting decline

Joseph asks what is driving low youth participation. Susie Gomes says the League hopes to study why people do not vote with Baruch and lacks empirical data now, but offers to discuss further.

2:11:22 5 min 24 sec
Public Testimony

Davia Willis of CUNY Student Senate testifies on Seal credit and access

The second public panel is called, including Davia Willis, Hazel Praise Aqua, Jared Fajardo, Ashley Pagaro, and Alan Sherman. Davia Willis, CUNY University Student Senate Chairperson-Elect, supports Seal credit and expanded access, citing student advocacy that secured $700,000 for an Omnicard program.

2:16:45 3 min 22 sec
Public Testimony

Hazel Praise Aqua testifies on civic education for immigrants

Hazel Praise Aqua, a Lehman College political science graduate from Ghana, says she had to relearn how government works in the U.S. She supports Res 620, Res 451, and Res 418 so all students can access civic education and recognition.

2:20:08 2 min 57 sec
Public Testimony

Jared Fajardo testifies on civic readiness as college readiness

Jared Fajardo, a Lehman College undergraduate and civic engagement workshop facilitator, says hands-on civic learning teaches students to analyze budgets and execute community actions. He urges passage of Res 418, 451, and 620 to create a seamless pathway from high school civic action to college success.

2:23:05 2 min 30 sec
Public Testimony

Ashley Pagaro testifies on equitable Seal access and credit standards

Ashley Pagaro, a Lehman College junior and first-generation college student from the Bronx, says she learned government only after returning to CUNY at 25. She supports the resolutions and asks CUNY to set one clear credit standard published before students apply.

2:25:35 4 min 18 sec
Public Testimony

Alan Sherman testifies on independent thinking and civic respect

Alan Sherman, a NYC resident since 1961, says respect for people who think differently is disappearing from political culture. He urges civics education that teaches independent thinking, respectful debate, and compromise.

2:29:52 2 min 34 sec
Q&A

Dinowitz asks Lehman students about student government experience

Dinowitz asks the Lehman students whether student government experience would have been easier with earlier civic training. Ashley Pagaro says she had to learn basic terms in college and wishes training had started in high school.

2:32:27 46 sec
Q&A

Jared Fajardo describes teaching students about city council

Jared Fajardo says many students do not know what the city council is or does. He explains that he has to teach that local officials have more power in communities than the president.

2:33:13 25 sec
Remarks

Dinowitz notes most adults may not know city council role

Dinowitz says most adults may also not know what city council does, given low voting rates. He says this reinforces why civic education must start in schools.

2:33:37 1 min 5 sec
Remarks

Alan Sherman calls for teaching compromise and respect

Alan Sherman says first graders should learn how government works and how to respectfully disagree. He argues compromise is essential and that indoctrination should not be part of education.

2:34:42 1 min 21 sec
Remarks

Hazel Praise Aqua contrasts Ghana civic education with U.S.

Hazel Praise Aqua says she learned Ghanaian civic education from grade one to grade nine. She says U.S. students often lack historical and political context, leaving professors to teach basics in college.

2:36:03 1 min 46 sec
Remarks

Ashley Pagaro discusses respectful disagreement and AI policy workshop

Ashley Pagaro says student government taught her to work with people she disagrees with. She describes an AI policy workshop where no students had experience with community boards, showing the need for early civic tools.

2:37:48 1 min 25 sec
Remarks

Joseph shares student government example and encourages engagement

Joseph recalls running a student government as a teacher and how students met with the principal to request a salad bar and water fountains. She encourages students to join SLTs and school campaigns, and thanks the panel.

2:39:14 59 sec
Procedure

Joseph moves to remote testimony and calls Andrew Wilkes

Joseph concludes in-person testimony and moves to remote witnesses. Staff manages unmuting, and Andrew Wilkes is called to testify.

2:40:13 3 min 21 sec
Public Testimony

Andrew Wilkes of Generation Citizen supports resolutions

Dr. Andrew Wilkes, Chief Voice and Policy Officer at Generation Citizen, supports Res 620, 418, and 451. He says universal implementation and college credit can bridge inequities and give civic engagement post-secondary value.

2:43:34 11 sec
Procedure

Joseph asks for any additional public testimony

Joseph asks if anyone else in the room wishes to testify. Seeing no one, she prepares to adjourn.

2:43:45 1 min 42 sec
Procedure

Hearing adjourned

Chair Joseph declares the hearing adjourned.

2:45:26 4 min 8 sec
Procedure

Post-adjournment informal conversation among attendees

After adjournment, attendees have an informal conversation about civic education, respect, and baseball. The discussion includes reflections on teaching compromise and listening to people with different views.